1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:25,080 This photograph was taken by Vika in his church. 2 00:00:25,080 --> 00:00:29,000 What can explain the eerie figure by the altar? 3 00:00:29,000 --> 00:00:34,320 In this girl's photograph was taken in 1917, were there really fairies at the bottom of 4 00:00:34,320 --> 00:00:36,840 a Yorkshire garden? 5 00:00:36,840 --> 00:00:41,920 This weird picture of a London bus was taken by a man who claims he could think photographs 6 00:00:41,920 --> 00:00:44,000 straight onto film. 7 00:00:44,000 --> 00:00:47,800 Can the camera really capture the psychic world? 8 00:00:47,800 --> 00:00:53,480 Mysteries from the files of Arthur C. Clarke, scientist, writer and visionary, the scientist 9 00:00:53,480 --> 00:00:59,120 who invented the communication satellite, the writer of 2010, and now in retreat in 10 00:00:59,120 --> 00:01:03,760 Sri Lanka, the visionary who ponders the riddles of this and other worlds. 11 00:01:23,480 --> 00:01:40,320 Investigating the supernatural can be a very frustrating experience. 12 00:01:40,320 --> 00:01:46,280 So much depends on second hand reports and eyewitnesses' powers of observation, yet 13 00:01:46,280 --> 00:02:00,200 a single good photograph could settle the matter once and for all. 14 00:02:00,200 --> 00:02:06,640 Most apparently psychic photographs seemed to turn up by accident, but in the 1960s one 15 00:02:06,640 --> 00:02:10,440 man claimed that he could take them at will. 16 00:02:10,440 --> 00:02:18,360 His name was Ted Sirius, and he asserted that he could imprint images on film merely by thinking 17 00:02:18,360 --> 00:02:20,960 at the camera. 18 00:02:20,960 --> 00:02:24,200 Ted Sirius called his technique a thoughtography. 19 00:02:24,200 --> 00:02:30,880 He usually used Polaroid cameras and sometimes extraordinary photographs emerged, blurred 20 00:02:30,880 --> 00:02:38,520 and distorted but often showing buildings miles away from the cameras. 21 00:02:38,520 --> 00:02:46,160 This 1967 session was organised by Ted's champion psychiatrist Dr. Jules Eisenbud. 22 00:02:46,160 --> 00:02:51,960 Today, Ted and Jules are reunited for another thoughtographic test. 23 00:02:51,960 --> 00:03:00,040 Dr. Eisenbud has taken time off from his busy practice. 24 00:03:00,040 --> 00:03:05,000 Pausing only to collect essential supplies, they're bound for Dr. Eisenbud's cabin outside 25 00:03:05,000 --> 00:03:22,520 Denver in the foothills of the Rocky Mountains. 26 00:03:22,520 --> 00:03:30,360 In his heyday, Ted astonished the psychic world with his performance as a thoughtographer. 27 00:03:30,360 --> 00:03:38,160 When he was hot, when he was in the groove, what happened was that first he would start 28 00:03:38,160 --> 00:03:41,520 by alternating whiteies and blackies. 29 00:03:41,520 --> 00:03:45,480 Blackies is total obstruction of the light, no light getting in. 30 00:03:45,480 --> 00:03:49,640 Whiteies is total over exposure, which shouldn't have been. 31 00:03:49,640 --> 00:03:55,720 Then the pictures would start getting darker and darker and darker, and then he would start 32 00:03:55,720 --> 00:04:02,200 to imprint parts of people or scenes. 33 00:04:02,200 --> 00:04:07,080 Like this church in Germany, where Ted had never been, all this blurred writing identified 34 00:04:07,080 --> 00:04:09,800 as a sign from a mountain's building. 35 00:04:09,800 --> 00:04:16,920 But in Ted's version, the word Canadian seems to be misspelled. 36 00:04:16,920 --> 00:04:18,760 This is a Star-Growing airplane. 37 00:04:18,760 --> 00:04:22,880 This is what Ted got. 38 00:04:22,880 --> 00:04:29,480 Here you will notice that the strut here is an inverted V. Up here he has re-inverted 39 00:04:29,480 --> 00:04:32,800 it so that this is his typical signature. 40 00:04:32,800 --> 00:04:39,160 Now this type of rearrangement is exactly what we do in dreams, exactly. 41 00:04:39,160 --> 00:04:40,800 Don't even trigger it. 42 00:04:40,800 --> 00:04:45,240 When I say now, bang, like that. 43 00:04:45,240 --> 00:04:47,040 Could Ted have been cheating? 44 00:04:47,040 --> 00:04:49,000 Impossible, says Eisenbud. 45 00:04:49,000 --> 00:04:58,960 Ted was continually observed by dozens of people, sometimes six, eight in a session. 46 00:04:58,960 --> 00:05:02,280 Ted usually held a tube of paper in front of the lens. 47 00:05:02,280 --> 00:05:06,600 He called it his gizmo and said it helped concentrate his thoughts. 48 00:05:06,600 --> 00:05:11,440 Ted's last thoughtograph was of curtains, but that was ten years ago. 49 00:05:11,440 --> 00:05:13,680 Can he produce anything now? 50 00:05:13,680 --> 00:05:19,840 I'm after one thing and that's a person that's holding something. 51 00:05:19,840 --> 00:05:20,840 Okay. 52 00:05:20,840 --> 00:05:33,520 But all he got was his face. 53 00:05:33,520 --> 00:05:38,520 Now you press the button. 54 00:05:38,520 --> 00:05:42,520 All right. 55 00:05:43,520 --> 00:05:44,520 Good. 56 00:05:48,520 --> 00:05:54,520 Undaunted, Ted and Jewel work on into the night. 57 00:05:54,520 --> 00:05:58,520 Trying everything they know to recapture the spirit of success. 58 00:06:00,520 --> 00:06:02,520 Come on, take some film Jews. 59 00:06:02,520 --> 00:06:04,520 You know. 60 00:06:04,520 --> 00:06:06,520 Randy's like this is a... 61 00:06:06,520 --> 00:06:11,520 We did this night after night for three years. 62 00:06:11,520 --> 00:06:17,520 The sessions would last six, eight hours and at the beginning nothing would happen. 63 00:06:19,520 --> 00:06:24,520 But later in those original sessions weird pictures would often emerge. 64 00:06:24,520 --> 00:06:25,520 How did it happen? 65 00:06:25,520 --> 00:06:32,520 Two observers who watched Ted in action for a whole weekend suspected his gizmo, the rolled up tube of paper. 66 00:06:33,520 --> 00:06:38,520 Charles Reynolds and David Isendrath, experts in both photography and conjuring, 67 00:06:38,520 --> 00:06:45,520 speculate that Ted might have used the gizmo to hide a pocket magnifying lens with a tiny slide stuck on the end. 68 00:06:45,520 --> 00:06:53,520 By taking a piece of a transparency, a piece of a photographic transparency and fastening it across the end, 69 00:06:53,520 --> 00:06:58,520 when light passes through the transparency and then through the lens, 70 00:06:58,520 --> 00:07:07,520 is picked up by the optical system of the Polaroid camera and voila, it becomes a photographic image. 71 00:07:07,520 --> 00:07:13,520 This is a big Ben and let's just see how it looks on your camera. 72 00:07:14,520 --> 00:07:19,520 Using a device like this, they reckon Ted could have produced any picture he wanted. 73 00:07:19,520 --> 00:07:21,520 Charlie is going to hold it. 74 00:07:21,520 --> 00:07:27,520 The light from the wink light is going to bounce off Charlie's shirt and jacket. 75 00:07:27,520 --> 00:07:34,520 And pass through this lens, through the lens of the camera and hopefully make a good image on the film. 76 00:07:34,520 --> 00:07:37,520 You want to mask off as much of that lens as you can. 77 00:07:37,520 --> 00:07:43,520 Now you must realize that when Ted is doing this, a great deal of chaos is taking place. 78 00:07:43,520 --> 00:07:47,520 And it's very possible that he could have ditched that as I just did. 79 00:07:48,520 --> 00:07:51,520 And when they said, let me see this thing, you could say, yeah, look at it, you know. 80 00:07:51,520 --> 00:07:57,520 And in the meantime, he's drinking beer and people are running around and a great deal is happening. 81 00:07:57,520 --> 00:08:06,520 And it's very, very easy under those circumstances for somebody who doesn't even have to be a magician. 82 00:08:06,520 --> 00:08:13,520 And it's very, very easy under those circumstances for somebody who doesn't even have to be a magician. 83 00:08:13,520 --> 00:08:18,520 So have Reynolds and Isendrath proved that Ted was never psychic? 84 00:08:18,520 --> 00:08:23,520 I cannot say that he doesn't have supernatural or extraterrestrial power. 85 00:08:23,520 --> 00:08:33,520 But in three days, I never saw him do anything that led me to believe that he did have them. 86 00:08:33,520 --> 00:08:43,520 Of all alleged psychic photographs, perhaps the most famous are these of fairies in a Yorkshire Glen. 87 00:08:53,520 --> 00:09:02,520 Francis Griffiths has brought her daughter to see the house in Cottingley where she lived with her cousin Elsie Wright during the First World War. 88 00:09:02,520 --> 00:09:05,520 And they thought, well, it's nice. And where is the back? 89 00:09:05,520 --> 00:09:07,520 The back's down the side. 90 00:09:08,520 --> 00:09:14,520 Francis and Elsie used to go down to play by the back, the stream at the bottom of the garden. 91 00:09:14,520 --> 00:09:22,520 And it was by that stream, they said, that in 1917 they took photographs of fairies. 92 00:09:22,520 --> 00:09:27,520 That summer, ten-year-old Francis kept falling into the back and getting into trouble. 93 00:09:27,520 --> 00:09:32,520 When her mother asked her why she went there, she said to see the fairies. 94 00:09:34,520 --> 00:09:40,520 To back up the story, sixteen-year-old Elsie borrowed her father's camera to try and photograph them. 95 00:09:42,520 --> 00:09:48,520 The girls came home an hour later. Elsie begged her father to waste no time. 96 00:09:48,520 --> 00:09:51,520 He had a dark room in the cupboard under the stairs. 97 00:09:51,520 --> 00:09:57,520 He remembers watching anxiously while he developed the plate, impatient to see how it was going to come out. 98 00:09:57,520 --> 00:10:02,520 That says, I'll tell you what it's coming up like, that picture you've taken. 99 00:10:02,520 --> 00:10:08,520 It says it's very untidy. It says you've been eating sandwiches, the sandwich papers all sticking up. 100 00:10:08,520 --> 00:10:13,520 And then he says, oh, what's these little things down here? 101 00:10:13,520 --> 00:10:18,520 And Elsie shouted out, they've come, they've come, they've come out. 102 00:10:18,520 --> 00:10:23,520 Month after this first picture, they produced another of Elsie with a winged gnome. 103 00:10:23,520 --> 00:10:28,520 These two photographs are maised to Arthur Conan Doyle, creator of Sherlock Holmes. 104 00:10:28,520 --> 00:10:33,520 He published them in The Strand Magazine and pronounced them genuine. 105 00:10:38,520 --> 00:10:43,520 The story hit the headlines and within days went round the world. 106 00:10:44,520 --> 00:10:49,520 Though some critics were skeptical, Conan Doyle remained convinced. 107 00:10:49,520 --> 00:10:53,520 He arranged for the girls to be given new cameras. They took more pictures. 108 00:10:53,520 --> 00:10:59,520 Francis and the leaping fairy, Elsie and the winged fairy offering a pose of flowers. 109 00:10:59,520 --> 00:11:03,520 And finally, the fairy bower. 110 00:11:04,520 --> 00:11:07,520 For 50 years they stuck to their story. 111 00:11:07,520 --> 00:11:09,520 Did you in any way fabricate those photographs? 112 00:11:09,520 --> 00:11:11,520 Of course not. 113 00:11:13,520 --> 00:11:16,520 You tell us how she could do it and we'll tell you. 114 00:11:16,520 --> 00:11:20,520 Remember, she was 16. I was 10. 115 00:11:21,520 --> 00:11:28,520 The case was finally cracked in 1982 with evidence from the Brotherton Collection in Leeds University. 116 00:11:28,520 --> 00:11:32,520 It holds what is supposed to be the original negatives and prints. 117 00:11:32,520 --> 00:11:39,520 But Geoffrey Crawley, editor of the British Journal of Photography, soon realized that the midge camera which the girls used 118 00:11:39,520 --> 00:11:42,520 simply wasn't good enough to have taken the first photograph. 119 00:11:42,520 --> 00:11:47,520 In particular, the simple lens could not have produced such a sharp negative. 120 00:11:47,520 --> 00:11:54,520 This negative is quite lively. The edges of the fairy figures are quite sharp. 121 00:11:54,520 --> 00:12:00,520 And it clearly could not have been produced by that lens in that midge camera. 122 00:12:00,520 --> 00:12:04,520 Crawley reasoned that this cannot have been the original print. 123 00:12:04,520 --> 00:12:11,520 Amazingly, he unearthed, incottingly, what he believes is an original print. It looks quite different. 124 00:12:11,520 --> 00:12:22,520 The original print is much softer. Exactly the type of, shall we say, less lively image that you would expect from a camera of this type. 125 00:12:22,520 --> 00:12:28,520 Consequently, a lot must have gone on between that and that. 126 00:12:28,520 --> 00:12:33,520 Crawley believes that the photograph was retouched by an expert. 127 00:12:33,520 --> 00:12:39,520 So what you would have to do is, first of all, make yourself a fresh negative of this. 128 00:12:39,520 --> 00:12:48,520 And you retouch that negative, you improve it with an airbrush and people very skilled in those days, possibly more skilled than today even. 129 00:12:48,520 --> 00:12:51,520 Now it's the fairies that everybody's interested in. 130 00:12:51,520 --> 00:12:57,520 So he subdues the face, brings out the fairies. And this is the first thing that people noticed. 131 00:12:57,520 --> 00:13:00,520 And they said they were glowing with a theory of light. 132 00:13:00,520 --> 00:13:07,520 And on the negative plate, he found evidence that the face had been subdued, probably by rubbing with Brasso. 133 00:13:07,520 --> 00:13:14,520 He thinks that the man behind it was Edward Gardner, believer in fairies and friend of Conan Doyle. 134 00:13:14,520 --> 00:13:21,520 When Crawley published his findings, Francis and Elsie confessed that the pictures were fakes. 135 00:13:21,520 --> 00:13:29,520 What really happened was this. After Francis had claimed she'd seen fairies up the beck, both girls were teased by the adults. 136 00:13:29,520 --> 00:13:32,520 Elsie hit on a scheme to stop the teasing. 137 00:13:32,520 --> 00:13:40,520 Elsie said one night we're getting ready for bed. She said, I've been thinking, kid, she was real cinema girl with Elsie. 138 00:13:40,520 --> 00:13:53,520 She says, what about if I draw some fairies and cut them out in cardboard and we'll stick them up in the grass and take Uncle and Dad's camera and we'll take a photograph. 139 00:13:53,520 --> 00:13:58,520 She said, if they see them, they'll have to believe it. They'll stop all this joking. 140 00:13:58,520 --> 00:14:15,520 So she lent Elsie this book and from page 104, Elsie traced this group of dancing girls, took off their wispy drapes, drew wings on them, cut them out and arranged them in an artistic group. 141 00:14:21,520 --> 00:14:27,520 Then she took the photograph. To stand them upright, they used hatpins. 142 00:14:27,520 --> 00:14:45,520 What we did, I said, we, with the long hatpin, put it down the back like that and stuck the tape at the back like that and then gradually warmed that down. 143 00:14:45,520 --> 00:14:54,520 They were longer than that though. They were about that, then 18 inches at least and then warmed that down into the air. 144 00:14:54,520 --> 00:15:07,520 They said that the thing was that they could see them, that the fairies were moving when the photographs were taken, but that's because they did it in the breeze. 145 00:15:07,520 --> 00:15:17,520 I never even thought of it being a fraud. It was just Elsie and I having a bit of fun and I can't understand it to this day why people were taken in. 146 00:15:17,520 --> 00:15:27,520 They wanted to be taken in, but people keep often saying to me, don't you feel ashamed that you've made all these poor people look fools? 147 00:15:27,520 --> 00:15:37,520 They believed in you, but I don't because they wanted to believe. Look at this photograph. That fairies all have to draw. 148 00:15:37,520 --> 00:15:50,520 That leg doesn't belong to that fairy and somebody pointed it out in the newspaper and one of our dear believers said, fairies aren't like humans. 149 00:15:50,520 --> 00:16:01,520 They haven't got bodies like we have of the skeleton and the arms and legs. They sort of put it together with thought and sometimes it doesn't come out right. 150 00:16:01,520 --> 00:16:08,520 We didn't have to tell a lie about it at all because always somebody came out and justified. 151 00:16:08,520 --> 00:16:17,520 It was very embarrassing because I mean two village kids said a brilliant man like Connendale, but we could only just keep quiet. 152 00:16:18,520 --> 00:16:28,520 It has the back yielded all its secrets. Though she admits the photographs were fakes, Francis still maintains that there were fairies at the bottom of the garden. 153 00:16:28,520 --> 00:16:35,520 I swear that there are fairies up there, or there were they, but there aren't now. 154 00:16:36,520 --> 00:16:45,520 The Kottingly fairies were great fun while they lasted, which was most of the century. And the case is very instructive. 155 00:16:45,520 --> 00:16:53,520 It shows that claims made by sweet innocent children must be treated as cautiously as those by adults. 156 00:16:53,520 --> 00:16:59,520 Some photographers have been astonished by their own pictures, like Gordon Carroll. 157 00:16:59,520 --> 00:17:06,520 I stood in this church and I took this photograph and it looked as if it's got a ghost on it. 158 00:17:06,520 --> 00:17:10,520 I'm absolutely sure there was nobody in the church at the time. 159 00:17:10,520 --> 00:17:16,520 The song was coming through from the south-southwest position. It was about, I should say, between 1.30 and 2.00. 160 00:17:16,520 --> 00:17:23,520 I took this picture on a brief time exposure of about two seconds and there was nothing there. 161 00:17:23,520 --> 00:17:27,520 But when the slide was processed, it showed a hazy, kneeling figure. 162 00:17:27,520 --> 00:17:33,520 The figure was totally transparent. You could see the altar rails through the figure and also the steps. 163 00:17:33,520 --> 00:17:37,520 One of the possibilities is that somebody, you know, having walked in front, 164 00:17:37,520 --> 00:17:42,520 but how in two seconds of my looking at the camera taking a brief time exposure, 165 00:17:42,520 --> 00:17:48,520 anybody could walk in, kneel down and disappear, it's just impossible if it had been another human being. 166 00:17:49,520 --> 00:17:56,520 Maple Chinnery took this picture of her husband, Jim, and her mother appears to be in the back seat. 167 00:17:56,520 --> 00:18:03,520 But the Chinneries say they had just photographed her grave, for mother had died a week before. 168 00:18:03,520 --> 00:18:07,520 My wife took the photo at the grave, so yeah. 169 00:18:07,520 --> 00:18:16,520 And when we got down to the car, I got in the car, she said, wait a minute, she said, I'll finish this film off. 170 00:18:16,520 --> 00:18:19,520 And she took my photo, and that was the finish of that. 171 00:18:19,520 --> 00:18:27,520 When I looked through the viewfinder, all I saw was Jimmy in the car and snap foot, and that was that, and thinking more about it. 172 00:18:27,520 --> 00:18:31,520 But there in the photograph was this unmistakable figure. 173 00:18:31,520 --> 00:18:37,520 Well, I took it and she wrote to somebody and they said, your mother in the back. 174 00:18:37,520 --> 00:18:42,520 And I said, don't be so stupid, that she was there. 175 00:18:42,520 --> 00:18:47,520 Well, I could see it was my mother, of course. I could see it was her. 176 00:18:47,520 --> 00:18:55,520 The most extraordinary thing about this is that she always used to sit on that side of the car when she was out with me, 177 00:18:55,520 --> 00:18:58,520 so that she could talk to me and see me as I was driving. 178 00:18:58,520 --> 00:19:02,520 Jim remembers his mother-in-law's last words. 179 00:19:02,520 --> 00:19:07,520 She said, Jim, you'll never come to any harm. She said, I'll still be with you. 180 00:19:08,520 --> 00:19:15,520 Over the years, quite a few mysterious photographs have been published, which appear to show ghosts. 181 00:19:15,520 --> 00:19:22,520 Here's a famous example made by a respected solicitor in a church in Arlandale, Sussex, in 1940. 182 00:19:22,520 --> 00:19:27,520 It shows a weird, luminous figure standing in front of the altar. 183 00:19:27,520 --> 00:19:31,520 And here's another church ghost made by the Reverend Kenneth Lord. 184 00:19:31,520 --> 00:19:42,520 It is church unit in Newby Yorkshire, and it shows a hooded figure with a ghastly, skull-like face standing beside the altar rail. 185 00:19:42,520 --> 00:19:52,520 Well, do these pictures really prove the existence of ghosts, or can it be that even when photographers are honest, cameras can lie? 186 00:19:52,520 --> 00:19:59,520 In this Home Office laboratory is the world's most advanced equipment for the examination of photographs. 187 00:20:02,520 --> 00:20:11,520 Using a computer, forensic experts help the police to snare criminals by enhancing photographic images to bring out hidden detail. 188 00:20:11,520 --> 00:20:15,520 Today, the computer is focused on the phantoms. 189 00:20:18,520 --> 00:20:23,520 The photographs are optically scanned and fed into the computer for analysis. 190 00:20:24,520 --> 00:20:31,520 Tim Newton and Dr. Steve Gull begin with Gordon Carroll's photograph. 191 00:20:31,520 --> 00:20:38,520 This is a picture, is allegedly of a ghost in front of an altar, but let's have a look at it in a bit more detail. 192 00:20:38,520 --> 00:20:41,520 Now I think we can see on the screen that it's a kneeling figure. 193 00:20:41,520 --> 00:20:47,520 Now if we look over here, perhaps we can see a dustpan. 194 00:20:47,520 --> 00:20:49,520 Do you think that's possible? 195 00:20:49,520 --> 00:20:59,520 Certainly possible. It's a bit beyond the resolution possible with this film, but as you say, it could be a dustpan, so do you know. 196 00:20:59,520 --> 00:21:09,520 Their unique, deblurring software, often used to decipher the number plates of getaway cars, reveals that this figure may have moved more than once. 197 00:21:10,520 --> 00:21:28,520 So what seems to have happened here is that somebody in a very long exposure picture in a very dark church has been cleaning the step and moved several times during the course of the exposure. 198 00:21:28,520 --> 00:21:35,520 Their conclusion? The picture shows a cleaning lady. But what about Mrs. Chinnery's photograph? 199 00:21:35,520 --> 00:21:46,520 There are some very strange things here. This scum definitely does pass this line here, but further down the picture, the line is definitely in front of her. 200 00:21:46,520 --> 00:21:51,520 There's also this feature on the other side of the barrier between the two windows. 201 00:21:51,520 --> 00:21:56,520 It does seem to be, as if it might be a shoulder, then that does make her very wide person. 202 00:21:56,520 --> 00:22:09,520 Perhaps the best explanation in Tim is that some mistake has happened here, some very short exposure some time before, has been superimposed upon the picture of the car. 203 00:22:15,520 --> 00:22:20,520 In the Arendl photograph, they've noticed a bright streak to the left of the figure. 204 00:22:21,520 --> 00:22:25,520 Isn't it strange how the streak seems to end on this candle? 205 00:22:25,520 --> 00:22:34,520 Yes, it certainly does seem to be heading that way. We can increase the contrast of this picture. 206 00:22:37,520 --> 00:22:41,520 It does seem strange that the priest should be wearing a skirt. 207 00:22:41,520 --> 00:22:42,520 That's definitely a start up. 208 00:22:42,520 --> 00:22:44,520 So we should conclude that this is probably a woman. 209 00:22:44,520 --> 00:22:45,520 Yes, certainly. 210 00:22:45,520 --> 00:22:57,520 We can now see this streak is definitely very clearly defined, and since it's ending up at this candle, we can probably say it's a taper used to light a candle up here. 211 00:22:58,520 --> 00:23:10,520 If their hunch is right, and the picture shows a woman carrying a lighted taper up the altar steps, that would explain the bumps in the streak, and the height of the bumps should be the same as the height of the steps. 212 00:23:11,520 --> 00:23:20,520 So if I measure the top point here, and the bottom point down there, gives me a height difference of about 24 units on this. 213 00:23:20,520 --> 00:23:30,520 And if I repeat the operation, and go from the height difference from one step to the step below, gives me a height difference of 25 units. 214 00:23:30,520 --> 00:23:34,520 That's very close indeed, that's almost definitely due to her walking up the stairs. 215 00:23:34,520 --> 00:23:35,520 So that seems pretty conclusive. 216 00:23:36,520 --> 00:23:38,520 We can be pretty sure this isn't a ghost. 217 00:23:38,520 --> 00:23:39,520 I think we can be as... 218 00:23:39,520 --> 00:23:46,520 And there's a perfectly natural explanation for this, that somebody came into the church and up the stairs to light the candle while the picture was being taken. 219 00:23:46,520 --> 00:23:51,520 Yes, and she's just moving slowly across the altar, lighting each of the candles in turn. 220 00:23:52,520 --> 00:23:58,520 But what about the sinister figure snapped by the Reverend Kenneth Lord in his church at Newby in Yorkshire? 221 00:24:06,520 --> 00:24:15,520 Even the most rigorous computer analysis cannot provide a simple photographic explanation. 222 00:24:15,520 --> 00:24:20,520 I don't think at this stage there's anything unusual about the picture at all. 223 00:24:20,520 --> 00:24:29,520 So I think our conclusions from this is that it's unlikely to be built up by a superposition of photographs, so this could be a candidate for ghosts. 224 00:24:30,520 --> 00:24:40,520 Although a very few photographs are difficult to explain away, not a single one of them offers convincing proof that a ghost has been captured by the camera. 225 00:24:40,520 --> 00:24:46,520 And this, I believe, provides conclusive evidence about the nature of ghosts. 226 00:24:46,520 --> 00:24:51,520 From all the nests century, millions of cameras have been clicking all over the world. 227 00:24:51,520 --> 00:24:55,520 By this time there must be billions of photographs in existence. 228 00:24:56,520 --> 00:25:03,520 If ghosts could be photographed, by now we'd have entire galleries full of portraits. 229 00:25:03,520 --> 00:25:10,520 But we don't, because these images exist only in the minds of the observers. 230 00:25:10,520 --> 00:25:17,520 I believe that ghosts are at least as real as dreams, and no one has ever photographed a dream. 231 00:25:17,520 --> 00:25:24,520 Yet one day that might be possible, and then we'd have cameras that could really capture ghosts. 232 00:25:55,520 --> 00:26:02,520 Next week, reincarnation. Have we lived before?